A late nights fun with an incestuious pedo

30th January 2007

greetings to my daily 23 - 30 visitors.

I've been scowering the increasingly surreal world of AOL Instant Messanger for a conversation combatant worthy of contending to the throne of last years unique chat with a rather forthcoming white supremicist, and oh dear I think I've found one, and I feel quite abused after it. So without further ado - I give you the world's most well spoken incest and peadophilia pundit - and a girl it would seem too.

.... hellos...

Rava412 (02:41:18): right well im gonna tell u even tho ure gonna get freaked out.
lukiebaggs (02:41:29): umm, i'll keep my mind as open as possible
Rava412 (02:41:31): i was askin for people in2 incest and/or little girls in a chatroom
lukiebaggs (02:41:43): i see
Rava412 (02:42:12): if u want 2 stop tlkin 2 me just say the word and i'll go
lukiebaggs (02:42:33): well, id like to chat to you about it, and ask a few questions, if your open to that
Rava412 (02:42:50): sure
lukiebaggs (02:43:28): so just to get a level footing, ur emma female bi manchester and 18?
Rava412 (02:43:45): yeah
lukiebaggs (02:43:50): okay
lukiebaggs (02:44:01): this should be interesting.
lukiebaggs (02:44:13): so your into those things?
Rava412 (02:44:17): yes
lukiebaggs (02:44:21): and you're not ashamed of it at all?
Rava412 (02:44:23): no, should a gay person be ashamed for being gay?
lukiebaggs (02:44:26): no, I suppose you've felt this way since you were young?
Rava412 (02:44:39): yes
lukiebaggs (02:44:59): and you're aware that society doesn't look too kindly on incest and peadophelia
Rava412 (02:45:08): yes i am
lukiebaggs (02:45:16): how does that effect you?
Rava412 (02:45:24): in what sense?
lukiebaggs (02:45:35): i suppose - do you see where they're coming from, or do you see society as wrong?
Rava412 (02:46:03): i do certainly, but with incest, opinion seems to be changing
lukiebaggs (02:46:21): really?
lukiebaggs (02:46:34): how did you gague that?
lukiebaggs (02:46:59): do you hang out with many of the same opinion as yourself? Do you go to incest meetings?
Rava412 (02:47:33): no. i heard something on radio 4 about it. about how taboo things like being gay and transexual have changed over the years and that as long as consensual when with some1 of the opposite sex, and protection is used, theres nothing that wrong with it
lukiebaggs (02:47:49): i see
lukiebaggs (02:48:01): well, to an extent i can see where you are coming from
lukiebaggs (02:48:30): however, regarding sexual practices with young children i think you'll find a lot more resistance
Rava412 (02:49:13): yah but im not as in2 that nearly as much as incest
Rava412 (02:49:24): its just an urge, but one that ive being trying to surpress
lukiebaggs (02:49:39): have you acted so far on your urges?
Rava412 (02:50:04): only incest, not little girls.and i dont think i will
lukiebaggs (02:50:18): thats somewhat reassuring
lukiebaggs (02:50:38): ive never met someone of your persuasion before so this is all very strage to me
lukiebaggs (02:51:00): why do you think society has it wrong regarding these taboos?
Rava412 (02:51:21): incest taboos? its not hurting anyone
lukiebaggs (02:52:21): you belive that contraception figuritivly wipes the slate clean?
Rava412 (02:53:07): yes i believe so. and even if a child was conceived the odds of physical or mental disabilities are smaller then people think, (citation needed!) if the worst comes to the worst
Rava412 (02:53:21): so have u never felt sexual urges towards some1 in ure family?
lukiebaggs (02:53:34): nope im pretty sure never
Rava412 (02:53:59): well im glad i fuck my brother. best sex ive ever had
lukiebaggs (02:54:39): and everything is kosher now?
lukiebaggs (02:54:44): no awkwardness?
lukiebaggs (02:55:05): the nice thing about a more traditional relationship be it straight or gay is you can always call it quits
lukiebaggs (02:55:16): but your brother is kind of always your brother, a bit
Rava412 (02:55:51): yeah
Rava412 (02:55:57): but everything is groovy
lukiebaggs (02:56:23): really?
lukiebaggs (02:57:02): i suppose the more contentious issue is regarding incest between a minor and an adult
lukiebaggs (02:57:43): and indeed all relations on a sexual level between minors and adults, be they incestuious or not
Rava412 (02:57:58): i guess
lukiebaggs (02:58:38): so you yourself agree on crimnial and sanctioned laws in place prohibiting sexual acts between minors and adults
Rava412 (02:59:20): sure
Rava412 (02:59:24): i just get urges
Rava412 (02:59:37): we all have urges to do the wrong thing. it's primal
lukiebaggs (02:59:56): yea but the rational thing to do in such a situation is to assess those urges and make a moral desision, its what seperates man from beasts
Rava412 (03:00:14): im sure even u do wrong things
lukiebaggs (03:00:23): lol no im perfect, in every possible way, id never go near family of a minor
Rava412 (03:00:43): can i see a pic of you?
lukiebaggs (03:00:45): sure - just go to my websites frontpage - www.buckledcranium.com
Rava412 (03:00:51): haha - perfect
lukiebaggs (03:00:55): hah so we're agreed - I am perfect
lukiebaggs (03:01:31): can i see u?
Rava412 (03:01:32): ya

lukiebaggs (03:03:54): thats really you?

Rava412 (03:03:35): yes, u got ne naughty pics?
lukiebaggs (03:03:54): no just a few of me looking twat-like
Rava412 (03:04:21): id like 2 c more of u. my other pix get revealing very quickly!
lukiebaggs (03:05:00): well as I said I don't have any kind of nude pix, and I'd rather continue talking to you about this issue of incest.
Rava412 (03:05:25): ok
Rava412 (03:06:46): i have a hypothetical question
lukiebaggs (03:06:56): shoot
Rava42 (03:07:17): you seem classy, would u hypothetically have a threesome with me and my brother?

... oh dear...

lukiebaggs (03:07:37): emmm
lukiebaggs (03:07:48): I wudnt feel comfortable with that on a great many levels... chiefly because I'd class myself as straight
Rava412 (03:07:50): oh well you never said, thought you might be bi
lukiebaggs (03:08:30): thats more of an assumption then, since when did I become classy?
Rava412 (03:08:41): well u seem classy and cute
lukiebaggs (03:09:08): well thanks, but classy? I'm continued talking to you about Incest for like 20 minutes, thats not very classy... but thats just my opinion
Rava412 (03:10:00): no u seem intelligent which i think is classy in these modern times
lukiebaggs (03:10:10): okay - well thank you for the compliment
lukiebaggs (03:10:19): likewise, I always thought people into incest looked something like this

lukiebaggs (03:11:08): can i see another pic of you?
Rava412 (03:11:40): ya

lukiebaggs (03:11:55): very pretty, - do you consent to parental incest?
Rava412 (03:12:08): as long as its consensual and they r of age yes i do
lukiebaggs (03:13:05): okay, wikipedia cites that 10-15% of kids seem of have a sexual experience with a brother or sister as they grow up which seems surprisingly high
Rava412 (03:13:12): I told you it was becoming more talked about in the open.
lukiebaggs (03:13:38): I don't know if children read polls, but you only draw the line at peadophelia then?
Rava412 (03:13:50): in this case yes
lukiebaggs (03:14:02): in all other cases?
Rava412 (03:15:32): u know, u almost sound as if you've experienced incest
lukiebaggs (03:15:39): ......... christ, i really hope not - and I can only guess that would have left somekind of a lasting memory.... do I come off that way?
Rava412 (03:16:41): idk, just a feeling. nothin major
lukiebaggs (03:16:59): an urge?
Rava412 (03:17:55): no
lukiebaggs (03:18:04): im just teasing you
lukiebaggs (03:18:37): I fundamentally belive that even a consenting minor, is merely being manipulated by their elder, and they themselves are too young and inexperienced to understand what they are doing. They may say they consent - but that doesnt make it right.
lukiebaggs (03:19:17): i think consent on their behalf still does not forgo the fundamental fact that a elder is abusing a minor
Rava412 (03:21:10): i agree they need to be over 16 at least
lukiebaggs (03:21:45): youre 18 right?
Rava412 (03:21:53): yeah
lukiebaggs (03:22:43): so at 16 were you frustrated with the idea that a sexual relationship with an over 18 year old was considered an offense? I think thats a bit silly myself.
Rava412 (03:23:28): not really. the only sex i wanted at the time was with my brother
lukiebaggs (03:23:58): sorry i forgot. which is a surprise.
lukiebaggs (03:24:02): i certainly think laws like that - when its right on the border - with some 2nd level students being 18 - in and amonst 17 year olds they've known since they were all kids, it makes the law downright uninforceable
lukiebaggs (03:24:21): how early was your first experience with your brother?
Rava412 (03:24:35): we were kissing and stuff when i was 15
lukiebaggs (03:25:04): its quite a jump descision to make
lukiebaggs (03:25:17): it seems like unspoken barrier most siblings would usually adhere to
lukiebaggs (03:25:23): on average
Rava412 (03:25:38): it was just an attraction we felt
Rava412 (03:25:48): like i think you're cute in your pic, no different
Rava412 (03:26:00): if i wanted to, id fuck u 2
lukiebaggs (03:26:04): but im not your brother - you now sound like more of a nymphomaniac
Rava412 (03:26:15): doesnt matter
Rava412 (03:26:45): u shud b able 2 fuck who u want to fuck, as long as they want to aswell, and they are overage
lukiebaggs (03:27:26): seems reasonable - yet you were spouting stuff earlier about looking for pix of little girls and incest in the chatroom, so somewhat contradictory, the results these pregnancies surely would be curious
Rava412 (03:27:38): do you think im hot?
lukiebaggs (03:27:56): heres the thing - and bare with me - yes - based on your photo
lukiebaggs (03:28:06): but 2 things would call a halt to that
lukiebaggs (03:28:28): 1 - your sexual barriers a whole lot more liberal then mine, atleast in this one instance I would whole heartedly call myself a right wing conservative in comparrison to yourself
lukiebaggs (03:28:43): and 2 - and dont take this badly cus this has been a very educating conversation
lukiebaggs (03:28:49): - ive seen your picture elsewhere, I've used AIM on and off since I was 12, lots of people use those pix, if you're from Manchester then why is the girl in those pix wearing a university of delaware hoodie?
Rava412 (03:29:04): what?!?! but thats me
lukiebaggs (03:29:25): i think you'll find that hard to prove
lukiebaggs (03:30:06): and with a sexually ambigious screen name like yours - as far as i know you could be George W Bush.
lukiebaggs (03:30:44): I'm open to beliving you. have you got a web profile? a myspace? some varifiable web page to your name? with a big Emma beside your photo? got a picture of you and a friend?
Rava412 (03:30:51): well i think u'll find im far more eloquant than Bush
lukiebaggs (03:31:21): perhaps, but he keeps his incest to himself. irregardless - you can see where im coming from?
lukiebaggs (03:31:47): even if it isnt you - im prepared to continue to talk to you to talk more about your position.
Rava412 (03:31:50): k

.... 5 minutes pass ....

lukiebaggs (03:35:07): Since you have taken no steps to prove your identity ill take it that you're not the girl in the picture, and by proxy you're hiding behind a fake identy. it has been an experience certainly, chatting to you who ever you are.

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I find this one even more disturbing then the KKK dude, atleast with him I felt like I was talking to a real person, I felt like I on some human level I kind of knew him a little by the end, but with RAVA the incesto once I saw those generic girl pics I've seen on bebo, myspace and AOL for the last 10 years I knew this person was telling porky pies about their identity, not that unexpected sure, but you just feel dirty talking to some anonymous entity about their supressed urges and designs at looking at pictures of young girls - that and the incest of course.

fun on a wednesday night. who needs cable?