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An Afternoons fun with a white supremacist

1st December 2007

I was bored, so I opened up AOL instant messenger for the first time in a while, popped into a chat - and no sooner had I done so then I noticed a perculiar chap spouting stuff like "Death to Niggers" - intrigued I posted him a message, and to my up most joy he repled. What followed was the kind of converstion one certainly doesn't expect to have on a saturday afternoon... but curiously intriguing it was, none the less.

lukiebaggs (18:34:38): I read what you said in the charoom - are you joking?
whitepowerforces (18:34:42): nope
lukiebaggs (18:34:46): okay - tell me about it
whitepowerforces (18:34:54): wish all niggers were dead
whitepowerforces (18:34:59): i repeatedly make calls to arms
lukiebaggs (18:35:01): why's that?
whitepowerforces (18:35:06): trying to encourage violence against them
whitepowerforces (18:35:09): well i think theyre ugly
lukiebaggs (18:35:20): thats it?
lukiebaggs (18:35:27): so ugly = must be killed?
whitepowerforces (18:35:39): not necessarily
whitepowerforces (18:35:43): only if black
whitepowerforces (18:35:48): or Jew
lukiebaggs (18:36:02): I see
lukiebaggs (18:36:15): would you consider yourself racist?
whitepowerforces (18:36:24): no
whitepowerforces (18:36:31): i'm not the type that wants to torture them, see
lukiebaggs (18:36:16): well thats nice
whitepowerforces (18:36:37): i just want them dead, maybe even in polite way
whitepowerforces (18:36:52): if theres no torture death isnt even bad, therefore im not a racist
lukiebaggs (18:36:59): Right, cus Louis Theroux it seemed most top KKK would consider themself racist - they just dont consder that to be a bad thing
whitepowerforces (18:37:15): yeah some of my friends say they are
whitepowerforces (18:37:22): i just dont want to be known as someone who discriminates
lukiebaggs (18:37:28): Right
whitepowerforces (18:37:27): cuz it aint like that
lukiebaggs (18:37:28): ive watched a lot of documentaries on it
whitepowerforces (18:37:32): cool
lukiebaggs (18:37:51): so why jews? jews lots of jews are white
whitepowerforces (18:38:01): uh well hitler didnt like them
whitepowerforces (18:38:03): and he was aryan
whitepowerforces (18:38:07): so i might as well promote that
lukiebaggs (18:38:11) yeah, might as well..
whitepowerforces (18:38:15): because hitler was a good guy he was a
whitepowerforces (18:38:16): sensitive man
lukiebaggs (18:38:24): true, he did like his dog, until he killed it
lukiebaggs (18:38:28): you read his book?
whitepowerforces (18:38:32): mein kampf
whitepowerforces (18:38:37): no
whitepowerforces (18:38:38): too boring
lukiebaggs (18:38:40): yeah, its basically a book length rant, he dictated whilst in prison
lukiebaggs (18:38:52): you studyed much of this stuff?
whitepowerforces (18:39:09): not really, not an avid reader
lukiebaggs (18:39:40): so like are you from a community of white supremicists?
whitepowerforces (18:40:10): nah theyre not too common in my area, so people wind up having to drive
lukiebaggs (18:40:40): so your a cummuting racist.
whitepowerforces (18:40:16): yeah, like up to 100 miles to get to the K K K meetings

kkk

Can you feel the love?


whitepowerforces (18:40:20): thats why we dont have them much
lukiebaggs (18:40:40): what state is that?
whitepowerforces (18:40:45): PA
lukiebaggs (18:40:49): ok
lukiebaggs (18:41:02): see - im not American so this is all quite alien to me
whitepowerforces (18:41:07): oh really
whitepowerforces (18:41:09): where are you from
lukiebaggs (18:41:12): Ireland
whitepowerforces (18:41:16): you wanna get in on this white power shit?
lukiebaggs (18:41:35): um, I want to hear your point of view
whitepowerforces (18:41:43): thats cool im a quarter Irish
whitepowerforces (18:41:45): wish i was more
whitepowerforces (18:41:57): the rest of me is shitty italian
lukiebaggs (18:42:04): the Irish were sometimes called the blacks of Europe
lukiebaggs (18:42:14): back when England owned ireland
whitepowerforces (18:42:19): yeah, John Lennon called women the nigger of the world
lukiebaggs (18:42:36): I didn't know that, I'm guessing it helps to know the context around that statement
whitepowerforces (18:42:49): he probably didnt even really mean it
lukiebaggs (18:42:50): a fair assumption
whitepowerforces (18:42:52): it was a song title
whitepowerforces (18:42:57): but i'm not a huge Beatles fan or anything
lukiebaggs (18:43:02): Right, I guess the whole "all you need is love" thing doesn't conecide too well with being KKK
whitepowerforces (18:43:04): I only like 5 of their songs
lukiebaggs (18:43:43): so are you a beliver in Eugenics?
whitepowerforces (18:43:55): is that like when you plan how the baby will look
whitepowerforces (18:43:57): before its born
lukiebaggs (18:44:02): no
lukiebaggs (18:44:07): thats genetic engeineering and designer babies
lukiebaggs (18:44:20): Eugenics were a huge part of the Nazi movement
lukiebaggs (18:44:36): racial traits - breeding a better purer race etc
whitepowerforces (18:44:37): if its part of nazi shit then yeah i promote it
lukiebaggs (18:44:46): but you don't understand it?
whitepowerforces (18:46:08): yeah its not like im copyin off them or anything
whitepowerforces (18:46:11): i just want to be like them
lukiebaggs (18:46:27): well, sounds like you should read more about them
lukiebaggs (18:46:43): would you consider yourself a Christian?
whitepowerforces (18:47:26): i'm a nihilist
lukiebaggs (18:47:29): They're a fun lot
whitepowerforces (18:47:38): but was brought up Catholic until about age 14, i started to disagree
lukiebaggs (18:47:45): i see
lukiebaggs (18:48:09): can i ask - what it is about being White that makes the White race superior?
whitepowerforces (18:48:35): far better ways of acting, less mumbling, more sexual appeal, etc
whitepowerforces (18:48:40): less violence
whitepowerforces (18:48:52): better music i duno
lukiebaggs (18:49:06): ah
whitepowerforces (18:49:11): yeah
whitepowerforces (18:49:14): i dont like a lot of rap
whitepowerforces (18:49:16): hardly any
lukiebaggs (18:49:40): right, I suppose a lot of those points are a matter of personal taste, but at the same time you could argue that Rock is really music created by Blacks...
lukiebaggs (18:49:51): theres also jazz
lukiebaggs (18:49:53): blues, reggea, carribean music - not to mention African music
whitepowerforces (18:49:56): even if thats true i wouldnt argue it
whitepowerforces (18:50:01): are you familiar with James Joyce?
lukiebaggs (18:50:06): yes his Martello Tower is just down the road from me
whitepowerforces (18:50:12): cool did you read any of his books
lukiebaggs (18:50:23): i read part of ullyces
lukiebaggs (18:50:31): I'm not really a big fan of that "stream of conciceness" writing
whitepowerforces (18:50:33): oh im like 120 pages through that
whitepowerforces (18:50:41): its difficult, but not as hard as Finnegans Wake lol
whitepowerforces (18:50:50): i'm reading all he's written at once, except for one lesser known
lukiebaggs (18:50:53): i apreciate his style, its just not the kind of book i like
whitepowerforces (18:51:07): yeah you seem like youd be more interested in nonfiction
whitepowerforces (18:51:12): or history
lukiebaggs (18:51:26): aha


lukiebaggs (18:52:17): i think your list of reasons why whites are superior is a little off
lukiebaggs (18:52:31): when you consider most modern wars are instigated by white people
lukiebaggs (18:52:54): most music you probably listen to was created by black people
lukiebaggs (18:53:08): as for sexual appeal - thats a matter of taste, i dont know many people who'd knock Beyonce in terms of being sex-tastic
whitepowerforces (18:53:25): yeah its my taste, though
lukiebaggs (18:53:26): mumbling is a strange point too
whitepowerforces (18:53:29): so i might as well go with the way i feel
lukiebaggs (18:53:30: yeah...might as well
whitepowerforces (18:53:46): plus im making a lot of friends in the K K K i wouldnt want to lose them
whitepowerforces (18:53:55): its not really a matter of whos right or wrong
lukiebaggs (18:54:06): really?
whitepowerforces (18:54:11): yeah who cares
whitepowerforces (18:54:12): im a nihilist
lukiebaggs (18:54:23): KKK - are usally pretty sure of themselves
whitepowerforces (18:54:38): its not like i dont act that way
whitepowerforces (18:54:40): at the meetings
whitepowerforces (18:54:46): deep down i bet a lot of them know its all bullshit
lukiebaggs (18:54:50): thats quite a confession
whitepowerforces (18:54:49): but its fun, you know
whitepowerforces (18:54:54): and it feels good to murder
lukiebaggs (18:54:55): you speaking from experience?
whitepowerforces (18:54:56): no but, I bet it would
lukiebaggs (18:55:15): my army friend would disagree I'm sure, so you do it cus theres fun in solidarity? - brotherhood?
whitepowerforces (18:55:24): yeah exactly
lukiebaggs (18:55:49): but id agrue theres more constructive ways to feel part of something
whitepowerforces (18:55:59): like what
whitepowerforces (18:56:07): theres not much around here im in a rural area
lukiebaggs (18:56:30): what about the internet - or college?
whitepowerforces (18:56:41): i go to a community college
lukiebaggs (18:56:51): no groups or societies to join?
whitepowerforces (18:57:07): yeah i love the internet
lukiebaggs (18:57:10): dont we all
whitepowerforces (18:57:26): i dont want to join a group man, the college is filled with black people
whitepowerforces (18:57:27): gangsters
whitepowerforces (18:57:34): if one of them finds out im in the KKK ill get beat up
lukiebaggs (18:57:40): or worse
lukiebaggs (18:57:47): kkk arent exactly loved
whitepowerforces (18:57:50): lol
whitepowerforces (18:57:53): true dat
lukiebaggs (18:57:54): they have a bad rep
whitepowerforces (18:58:07): yeah i hate how all of them are christians and shit
whitepowerforces (18:58:12): makes me feel like i dont belong
lukiebaggs (18:58:29): you should start a break away faction, Provisional KKK or The Real KKK
whitepowerforces (18:58:14): what religion are you?
lukiebaggs (18:58:29): raised catholic like yourself
lukiebaggs (18:58:38): but not a practicing Christian
lukiebaggs (18:59:02): ultimatly - it seems like you just want to belong, to be part of a larger group
lukiebaggs (18:59:36): it seems like you disagree with a lot of the KKK mantra
lukiebaggs (18:59:38): no?
whitepowerforces (18:59:45): yeah ill give you that
lukiebaggs (18:59:59): so why conform and join them?
whitepowerforces (19:00:09): a lot of them are good guys man
whitepowerforces (19:00:11): and i get beer
whitepowerforces (19:00:14): even though im under 21
lukiebaggs (19:00:19): we all like beer.
lukiebaggs (19:00:28): are they as violent as they'd have me belive? like in the past?
whitepowerforces (19:00:43): No lol, they act like they are
whitepowerforces (19:00:47): and we plan so many attacks
lukiebaggs (19:00:48): but never actually go through with them?
whitepowerforces (19:00:58): and theyre never as bad as we say they'll be
whitepowerforces (19:01:01): cuz we're afraid of the cops
whitepowerforces (19:01:07): like, we've never even completed a murder
lukiebaggs (19:01:12): how large is this group?
whitepowerforces (19:01:12): because too many people wuss out
whitepowerforces (19:01:18): 23 people
lukiebaggs (19:01:25): mostly in their 20's?
whitepowerforces (19:01:33): yeah except for 3 old men
lukiebaggs (19:01:38): leaders?
whitepowerforces (19:01:40): who say they used to be serial killers, against blacks
whitepowerforces (19:01:51): there are no leaders anymore lol
whitepowerforces (19:01:57): because theres too many liberal guys in it
lukiebaggs (19:02:01): fucking liberals...
whitepowerforces (19:02:03): who want everyone to have their say
lukiebaggs (19:02:14): is this like "underground" or do you have a buisness card and a website?
whitepowerforces (19:02:24): way underground man
lukiebaggs (19:02:29): so underground you're overground?
whitepowerforces (19:02:33): i bet youre practically the only one that knows about it
whitepowerforces (19:02:38): besides us. we have a code of secrecy
lukiebaggs (19:02:39): how did you get involved in it?
whitepowerforces (19:02:49): i used to work at Quiznos
whitepowerforces (19:02:55): a wigger guy invited me into it
whitepowerforces (19:02:58): he wasnt really wigger
lukiebaggs (19:03:04): your not being very inconspicuous with that screen name tho
whitepowerforces (19:03:11): just acting like it, to attract blacks
whitepowerforces (19:03:13): and then go out and kill them..he said
whitepowerforces (19:03:15): well this is online
whitepowerforces (19:03:20): no ones gonna track me down
whitepowerforces (19:03:29): no one has so far anyway
lukiebaggs (19:03:57): id be carfull
lukiebaggs (19:04:11): hate is a dangerous buisness
whitepowerforces (19:04:33): dont worry i got knives
whitepowerforces (19:04:35): if someone comes at me
whitepowerforces (19:04:36): i g2g
lukiebaggs (19:04:40): really?
whitepowerforces (19:04:41): see you around
lukiebaggs (19:04:50): interesting talking to you.

So there you have it... His reasons seem to be all about finding a place, a group, or a society to belong to. He admitted that practically no one in the group really belives what they talk about, and he hasn't even read and really questioned any of martyrs his cause aspires to. He's just in it for an identity - and for the free booze. Couldn't he just start a bowling troupe or something?

What curious creatures human beings truly are.

Oh and Merry Christmas

 

 

 

 

 

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